1 00:00:11,110 --> 00:00:08,950 my name is ben sargen i'm actually i'm 2 00:00:13,430 --> 00:00:11,120 from rochester institute of technology 3 00:00:17,269 --> 00:00:13,440 so other side of the state 4 00:00:19,029 --> 00:00:17,279 um so i'm a postdoc and i'm an 5 00:00:22,470 --> 00:00:19,039 observational astronomer 6 00:00:24,150 --> 00:00:22,480 and i'll be talking about studies of uh 7 00:00:26,150 --> 00:00:24,160 infrared spectral studies of 8 00:00:28,310 --> 00:00:26,160 pre-planetary disks 9 00:00:30,390 --> 00:00:28,320 um 10 00:00:31,750 --> 00:00:30,400 so first a bit of background 11 00:00:33,670 --> 00:00:31,760 um so 12 00:00:37,430 --> 00:00:33,680 when stars form 13 00:00:40,310 --> 00:00:37,440 uh they form from giant molecular clouds 14 00:00:43,190 --> 00:00:40,320 and so if if you get a cloud that's a 15 00:00:44,950 --> 00:00:43,200 little over dense it begins contracting 16 00:00:46,790 --> 00:00:44,960 under its own gravity 17 00:00:49,430 --> 00:00:46,800 and if there's any 18 00:00:50,389 --> 00:00:49,440 angular momentum there's any spin to the 19 00:00:54,869 --> 00:00:50,399 cloud 20 00:00:56,790 --> 00:00:54,879 will collapse to form the star 21 00:01:00,229 --> 00:00:56,800 what's left over that doesn't make it to 22 00:01:02,549 --> 00:01:00,239 the star forms a disk of gas and dust 23 00:01:04,469 --> 00:01:02,559 and so it collapses and becomes a 24 00:01:06,710 --> 00:01:04,479 protoplanetary disk 25 00:01:08,950 --> 00:01:06,720 and so eventually all of the cloud 26 00:01:10,950 --> 00:01:08,960 reigns on to the disk and then after a 27 00:01:13,350 --> 00:01:10,960 few million years 28 00:01:16,390 --> 00:01:13,360 our observations are finding the discs 29 00:01:18,390 --> 00:01:16,400 seem to dissipate and this is the stage 30 00:01:19,749 --> 00:01:18,400 where planets and all the other solid 31 00:01:22,149 --> 00:01:19,759 bodies of 32 00:01:24,149 --> 00:01:22,159 planetary systems form 33 00:01:26,870 --> 00:01:24,159 so i'm studying this intermediate stage 34 00:01:29,429 --> 00:01:26,880 where you still have the the massive 35 00:01:31,749 --> 00:01:29,439 disc of gas and dust 36 00:01:34,069 --> 00:01:31,759 and i'm using infrared spectroscopy to 37 00:01:36,870 --> 00:01:34,079 study the gaseous component 38 00:01:38,870 --> 00:01:36,880 so in the past maybe 20 or so years 39 00:01:42,069 --> 00:01:38,880 there's been a number of studies 40 00:01:43,510 --> 00:01:42,079 um at the sub millimeter and millimeter 41 00:01:46,149 --> 00:01:43,520 wavelengths 42 00:01:48,789 --> 00:01:46,159 studying the the molecules in the discs 43 00:01:50,950 --> 00:01:48,799 and they found such things as cn and 44 00:01:53,670 --> 00:01:50,960 hcn and formaldehyde 45 00:01:55,830 --> 00:01:53,680 and there are ongoing studies surveys of 46 00:01:57,910 --> 00:01:55,840 these protoplanetary disks 47 00:01:59,670 --> 00:01:57,920 looking for these molecules 48 00:02:02,149 --> 00:01:59,680 also in the same time 49 00:02:04,950 --> 00:02:02,159 there have been infrared studies 50 00:02:06,870 --> 00:02:04,960 of the same disks looking at various 51 00:02:09,190 --> 00:02:06,880 molecules 52 00:02:11,750 --> 00:02:09,200 so maybe in the the 90s beginning in the 53 00:02:13,670 --> 00:02:11,760 90s there were these um studies looking 54 00:02:17,350 --> 00:02:13,680 for things like uh 55 00:02:18,949 --> 00:02:17,360 carbon monoxide and water and so forth 56 00:02:20,790 --> 00:02:18,959 however it was the 57 00:02:22,630 --> 00:02:20,800 launch of the spitzer space telescope 58 00:02:23,510 --> 00:02:22,640 about a little over 10 years ago that 59 00:02:24,710 --> 00:02:23,520 allowed 60 00:02:29,350 --> 00:02:24,720 um 61 00:02:31,910 --> 00:02:29,360 protoplanetary disks 62 00:02:32,869 --> 00:02:31,920 and then a few years into the mission we 63 00:02:35,030 --> 00:02:32,879 started 64 00:02:37,430 --> 00:02:35,040 there were a number of papers here's the 65 00:02:39,750 --> 00:02:37,440 first one that began reporting a number 66 00:02:42,309 --> 00:02:39,760 of uh various molecules from the 67 00:02:44,790 --> 00:02:42,319 slightly higher resolution setting 68 00:02:47,670 --> 00:02:44,800 of the infrared spectrograph on spitzer 69 00:02:52,150 --> 00:02:47,680 finding things like water and oh 70 00:02:54,150 --> 00:02:52,160 hcn c8 c2h2 and carbon dioxide 71 00:02:56,630 --> 00:02:54,160 so this this resolution that's 72 00:02:58,150 --> 00:02:56,640 wavelength divided by the 73 00:03:00,710 --> 00:02:58,160 spectral uh 74 00:03:02,309 --> 00:03:00,720 resolution element so it's the smallest 75 00:03:03,430 --> 00:03:02,319 wavelength detail you can see on the 76 00:03:06,229 --> 00:03:03,440 spectrum 77 00:03:08,470 --> 00:03:06,239 so this isn't all that great 600 but 78 00:03:09,910 --> 00:03:08,480 that's that's the best we can do 79 00:03:12,630 --> 00:03:09,920 so people were studying things with the 80 00:03:14,710 --> 00:03:12,640 higher resolution setting there's also a 81 00:03:16,550 --> 00:03:14,720 lower resolution setting 82 00:03:18,710 --> 00:03:16,560 r of 90. 83 00:03:20,390 --> 00:03:18,720 so it's very difficult to study gases 84 00:03:24,070 --> 00:03:20,400 with such low resolution but you can 85 00:03:25,990 --> 00:03:24,080 still find lines from such gases as hcn 86 00:03:27,430 --> 00:03:26,000 and c2h2 87 00:03:29,910 --> 00:03:27,440 this study 88 00:03:31,589 --> 00:03:29,920 this talk focuses on the stuff you can 89 00:03:34,149 --> 00:03:31,599 see at short wavelengths with this low 90 00:03:35,750 --> 00:03:34,159 resolution setting there are many more 91 00:03:37,589 --> 00:03:35,760 spectra of the 92 00:03:39,990 --> 00:03:37,599 many more spectrum the low resolution 93 00:03:41,990 --> 00:03:40,000 mode than high resolution because it 94 00:03:44,390 --> 00:03:42,000 takes either a brighter source or a 95 00:03:46,470 --> 00:03:44,400 longer observation time to get a good 96 00:03:50,309 --> 00:03:46,480 spectrum at the higher resolution so we 97 00:03:51,830 --> 00:03:50,319 have many more low resolution spectra 98 00:03:54,229 --> 00:03:51,840 so here are 99 00:03:56,149 --> 00:03:54,239 sample spectra from 100 00:03:59,509 --> 00:03:56,159 from a titari star 101 00:04:02,869 --> 00:03:59,519 i call it rw riga a so this is a a star 102 00:04:06,149 --> 00:04:02,879 with a protoplanetary disk around it the 103 00:04:09,589 --> 00:04:06,159 spectrum in blue is a of an fu orionis 104 00:04:12,630 --> 00:04:09,599 star called v1057 cygni 105 00:04:14,149 --> 00:04:12,640 furiona star is a slightly earlier stage 106 00:04:16,550 --> 00:04:14,159 when there's much more material in the 107 00:04:19,189 --> 00:04:16,560 disc so that the disc is an accretion 108 00:04:23,350 --> 00:04:19,199 disc it's material that's 109 00:04:25,990 --> 00:04:23,360 being accreted towards the star 110 00:04:27,430 --> 00:04:26,000 and for effiorionis stars 111 00:04:29,350 --> 00:04:27,440 it's thought that the disc is much more 112 00:04:31,909 --> 00:04:29,360 massive there's much more accretion 113 00:04:33,270 --> 00:04:31,919 going on and so the heating for for 114 00:04:35,430 --> 00:04:33,280 those discs 115 00:04:37,189 --> 00:04:35,440 they're heated more from within than 116 00:04:38,310 --> 00:04:37,199 without and so you get absorption 117 00:04:42,150 --> 00:04:38,320 features 118 00:04:45,430 --> 00:04:42,160 and so i start so my my study focuses on 119 00:04:48,870 --> 00:04:45,440 these t tauri discs but i'll start with 120 00:04:51,110 --> 00:04:48,880 the every your own fu orionis disc 121 00:04:52,950 --> 00:04:51,120 so all of the spectral structure that 122 00:04:55,350 --> 00:04:52,960 you're seeing in this spectrum 123 00:04:57,189 --> 00:04:55,360 comes from water vapor at one 124 00:04:59,350 --> 00:04:57,199 temperature 125 00:05:01,350 --> 00:04:59,360 that's a 800 kelvin 126 00:05:04,230 --> 00:05:01,360 model that i'm using that's the orange 127 00:05:06,390 --> 00:05:04,240 that fits the spectrum the i'm using 128 00:05:09,430 --> 00:05:06,400 also some continuum but you get all of 129 00:05:11,990 --> 00:05:09,440 the structure with just a simple model 130 00:05:15,029 --> 00:05:12,000 so you see this sort of feature here at 131 00:05:17,510 --> 00:05:15,039 6.6 microns and some sort of ripples 132 00:05:19,430 --> 00:05:17,520 here at shorter wavelengths 133 00:05:21,990 --> 00:05:19,440 so this is kind of telling for what's 134 00:05:24,230 --> 00:05:22,000 going on in the titari disks 135 00:05:26,150 --> 00:05:24,240 they are systems that have less 136 00:05:27,430 --> 00:05:26,160 accretion they're heated more from 137 00:05:29,830 --> 00:05:27,440 without 138 00:05:32,310 --> 00:05:29,840 more by the star 139 00:05:34,790 --> 00:05:32,320 the radiation from the star so you get 140 00:05:36,950 --> 00:05:34,800 emission from those systems and here you 141 00:05:40,870 --> 00:05:36,960 have the same feature but it's a mirror 142 00:05:42,950 --> 00:05:40,880 image so yet so it's emission here 143 00:05:45,189 --> 00:05:42,960 so if i just had emission 144 00:05:46,870 --> 00:05:45,199 from water vapor in the spectrum 145 00:05:49,270 --> 00:05:46,880 everything else would be the same and 146 00:05:51,270 --> 00:05:49,280 here i would have the dashed line but 147 00:05:52,870 --> 00:05:51,280 that doesn't fit the data 148 00:05:54,230 --> 00:05:52,880 so it appears there's some sort of 149 00:05:56,550 --> 00:05:54,240 component 150 00:05:59,189 --> 00:05:56,560 there's something absorbing at those 151 00:06:02,390 --> 00:05:59,199 wavelengths and in this model i've used 152 00:06:07,510 --> 00:06:02,400 formaldehyde and i get a decent fit to 153 00:06:11,830 --> 00:06:10,150 so if i had very high resolution like 154 00:06:13,430 --> 00:06:11,840 perhaps i could get from a ground-based 155 00:06:15,510 --> 00:06:13,440 telescope 156 00:06:17,510 --> 00:06:15,520 this is what i would see if all i had 157 00:06:20,070 --> 00:06:17,520 were just water vapor 158 00:06:22,070 --> 00:06:20,080 over the five to seven and a half micron 159 00:06:24,550 --> 00:06:22,080 wavelength part of the spectrum 160 00:06:25,510 --> 00:06:24,560 so you can see that this 6.3 microns 161 00:06:27,430 --> 00:06:25,520 which was 162 00:06:29,270 --> 00:06:27,440 sort of a minimum here 163 00:06:31,590 --> 00:06:29,280 it's not really absorption but it's just 164 00:06:32,950 --> 00:06:31,600 a lack of emission you're seeing down 165 00:06:35,510 --> 00:06:32,960 close to the continuum of those 166 00:06:37,189 --> 00:06:35,520 wavelengths at other wavelengths the 167 00:06:38,469 --> 00:06:37,199 shorter wavelengths you see sort of a 168 00:06:41,029 --> 00:06:38,479 cluster of 169 00:06:43,110 --> 00:06:41,039 lines that get a bit more densely packed 170 00:06:46,070 --> 00:06:43,120 and stronger 171 00:06:48,550 --> 00:06:46,080 around 5.7 microns or so 172 00:06:50,870 --> 00:06:48,560 what looked like a 6.6 micron feature is 173 00:06:54,230 --> 00:06:50,880 just a whole bunch of strong lines 174 00:06:56,390 --> 00:06:54,240 close to 6.6 microns 175 00:06:59,029 --> 00:06:56,400 but we don't have high resolution we 176 00:07:00,950 --> 00:06:59,039 just have the low resolution 177 00:07:03,270 --> 00:07:00,960 so a bit about perhaps 178 00:07:05,589 --> 00:07:03,280 what might not be going on 179 00:07:07,670 --> 00:07:05,599 so there are spectra of tetori stars 180 00:07:09,670 --> 00:07:07,680 that are completely boring over these 181 00:07:11,589 --> 00:07:09,680 wavelengths they're more or less just 182 00:07:13,430 --> 00:07:11,599 sort of continuum 183 00:07:14,390 --> 00:07:13,440 nothing much going on 184 00:07:17,909 --> 00:07:14,400 and those 185 00:07:18,870 --> 00:07:17,919 spectra so um that would suggest that 186 00:07:21,990 --> 00:07:18,880 perhaps 187 00:07:23,110 --> 00:07:22,000 it's not an artifact that's responsible 188 00:07:24,790 --> 00:07:23,120 although 189 00:07:26,469 --> 00:07:24,800 you can't rule it out but you know the 190 00:07:29,189 --> 00:07:26,479 fact that you don't see the features and 191 00:07:30,790 --> 00:07:29,199 all of these stars suggest it might not 192 00:07:33,990 --> 00:07:30,800 be an artifact 193 00:07:36,550 --> 00:07:34,000 another thing that it probably is not is 194 00:07:39,430 --> 00:07:36,560 uh features from the stellar spectrum 195 00:07:40,950 --> 00:07:39,440 this the spectrum of the star itself 196 00:07:43,589 --> 00:07:40,960 typically the emission over these 197 00:07:44,629 --> 00:07:43,599 wavelengths is like five to thirty 30 198 00:07:46,550 --> 00:07:44,639 times 199 00:07:47,430 --> 00:07:46,560 that of the star 200 00:07:49,749 --> 00:07:47,440 so 201 00:07:51,830 --> 00:07:49,759 whatever spectral structure you'll see 202 00:07:53,589 --> 00:07:51,840 over these wavelengths should be drowned 203 00:07:55,350 --> 00:07:53,599 out by a lot of 204 00:07:57,990 --> 00:07:55,360 emission from the the protoplanetary 205 00:08:00,150 --> 00:07:58,000 disk what's what structure you do see is 206 00:08:03,189 --> 00:08:00,160 probably water at least in the later 207 00:08:04,469 --> 00:08:03,199 type cooler stars 208 00:08:07,189 --> 00:08:04,479 perhaps 209 00:08:09,749 --> 00:08:07,199 some solid materials have features over 210 00:08:12,950 --> 00:08:09,759 these wavelengths these are 211 00:08:15,830 --> 00:08:12,960 opacity curves of phyllosilicates so 212 00:08:17,830 --> 00:08:15,840 those are silicate dust grains 213 00:08:19,990 --> 00:08:17,840 and and such that the crystalline 214 00:08:21,189 --> 00:08:20,000 structure 215 00:08:23,270 --> 00:08:21,199 is that the 216 00:08:26,150 --> 00:08:23,280 you get the silicon 217 00:08:27,830 --> 00:08:26,160 sio4 tetrahedron that arrange themselves 218 00:08:29,589 --> 00:08:27,840 in sheets and in between the sheets you 219 00:08:30,869 --> 00:08:29,599 have various molecules 220 00:08:33,269 --> 00:08:30,879 and so you can get some spectral 221 00:08:35,110 --> 00:08:33,279 structure over these wavelengths 222 00:08:37,190 --> 00:08:35,120 but it doesn't seem to match up to the 223 00:08:39,509 --> 00:08:37,200 stuff we see in our spectra 224 00:08:42,070 --> 00:08:39,519 so probably not phylosilicates 225 00:08:45,269 --> 00:08:42,080 it could also be ices ices have features 226 00:08:47,990 --> 00:08:45,279 over these wavelengths here are ice 227 00:08:49,509 --> 00:08:48,000 opacity profiles for formaldehyde formic 228 00:08:51,190 --> 00:08:49,519 acid and water 229 00:08:52,949 --> 00:08:51,200 and although they have features that are 230 00:08:55,350 --> 00:08:52,959 close they're not 231 00:08:56,790 --> 00:08:55,360 exactly a good match 232 00:08:58,870 --> 00:08:56,800 and there are various there have been 233 00:08:59,910 --> 00:08:58,880 various studies over the past 20 plus 234 00:09:01,829 --> 00:08:59,920 years 235 00:09:03,350 --> 00:09:01,839 over 236 00:09:07,430 --> 00:09:03,360 of ices 237 00:09:09,750 --> 00:09:07,440 you might see in 238 00:09:11,590 --> 00:09:09,760 around dust grains and big molecular 239 00:09:14,150 --> 00:09:11,600 clouds and again 240 00:09:16,230 --> 00:09:14,160 not a good match to our spectra 241 00:09:18,230 --> 00:09:16,240 what does seem to be a good match 242 00:09:19,350 --> 00:09:18,240 um so there are there seem to be 243 00:09:20,949 --> 00:09:19,360 different 244 00:09:24,870 --> 00:09:20,959 types of spectra they're the ones that 245 00:09:26,550 --> 00:09:24,880 have the 6.6 micron 246 00:09:29,670 --> 00:09:26,560 peak with the shoulder at shorter 247 00:09:31,350 --> 00:09:29,680 wavelengths sort of a minimum at 6.3 and 248 00:09:33,190 --> 00:09:31,360 then 249 00:09:34,470 --> 00:09:33,200 a sort of a 250 00:09:36,790 --> 00:09:34,480 sort of a 251 00:09:39,269 --> 00:09:36,800 upward rise to shorter wavelengths 252 00:09:42,070 --> 00:09:39,279 um so the water vapor and emission like 253 00:09:44,710 --> 00:09:42,080 with the the spectrum a few slides ago 254 00:09:46,710 --> 00:09:44,720 seems to fit overall fairly well and 255 00:09:48,550 --> 00:09:46,720 then i need to include absorption from 256 00:09:51,030 --> 00:09:48,560 something and 257 00:09:53,350 --> 00:09:51,040 for these at least formaldehyde 258 00:09:56,070 --> 00:09:53,360 seems to be a good fit 259 00:09:58,550 --> 00:09:56,080 for others water vapor and emission but 260 00:10:01,829 --> 00:09:58,560 uh something different in this case 261 00:10:04,550 --> 00:10:01,839 formic acid and absorption this uh 262 00:10:05,750 --> 00:10:04,560 spectrum df tau seems especially well 263 00:10:08,389 --> 00:10:05,760 fit with the 264 00:10:10,070 --> 00:10:08,399 formaldehyde formic acid 265 00:10:12,550 --> 00:10:10,080 there are other stars that don't have 266 00:10:14,949 --> 00:10:12,560 much or they have perhaps no water 267 00:10:16,230 --> 00:10:14,959 emission discernible this one has 268 00:10:17,509 --> 00:10:16,240 perhaps a little 269 00:10:19,590 --> 00:10:17,519 but they have these 270 00:10:22,150 --> 00:10:19,600 stronger absorption bands at the shorter 271 00:10:25,430 --> 00:10:22,160 wavelengths in this case that are better 272 00:10:27,750 --> 00:10:25,440 fit by formaldehyde 273 00:10:29,430 --> 00:10:27,760 and then others with a narrower feature 274 00:10:31,829 --> 00:10:29,440 like bf towel 275 00:10:35,990 --> 00:10:31,839 that again seem to be fit better by 276 00:10:37,430 --> 00:10:36,000 formic acid but but very little water 277 00:10:40,230 --> 00:10:37,440 so i'm not going to go through the whole 278 00:10:43,190 --> 00:10:40,240 table but these are models that i've 279 00:10:45,430 --> 00:10:43,200 generated to to match the spectra 280 00:10:46,470 --> 00:10:45,440 so the main features are that the 281 00:10:48,949 --> 00:10:46,480 emitting 282 00:10:50,710 --> 00:10:48,959 areas that i need for the water vapor 283 00:10:53,430 --> 00:10:50,720 component are 284 00:10:55,269 --> 00:10:53,440 on the order of a few astronomical units 285 00:10:58,150 --> 00:10:55,279 one astronomical unit is the average 286 00:11:00,150 --> 00:10:58,160 earth sun distance okay 287 00:11:02,630 --> 00:11:00,160 so if uaeu the typical water 288 00:11:04,069 --> 00:11:02,640 temperatures are 600 to 1200 kelvin 289 00:11:06,790 --> 00:11:04,079 which are fairly consistent with 290 00:11:09,910 --> 00:11:06,800 previous studies the formaldehyde seems 291 00:11:14,230 --> 00:11:09,920 to be fairly cool relatively speaking so 292 00:11:16,230 --> 00:11:14,240 50 to 500 kelvin and the formic acid 293 00:11:19,910 --> 00:11:16,240 it's not well constrained but also 294 00:11:22,150 --> 00:11:19,920 another a few hundred kelvin or so 295 00:11:25,030 --> 00:11:22,160 um i'm running short on time so i'll 296 00:11:27,269 --> 00:11:25,040 just summarize the disc so 297 00:11:28,870 --> 00:11:27,279 the idea is that 298 00:11:30,550 --> 00:11:28,880 if you looked at a protoplanetary disc 299 00:11:31,910 --> 00:11:30,560 edge on you're looking at cooler stuff 300 00:11:34,230 --> 00:11:31,920 in front of warmer stuff and you might 301 00:11:34,949 --> 00:11:34,240 expect absorption features 302 00:11:37,269 --> 00:11:34,959 but 303 00:11:39,670 --> 00:11:37,279 the few discs that have 304 00:11:43,910 --> 00:11:39,680 inclination estimates it doesn't seem 305 00:11:49,190 --> 00:11:46,389 one thing one sanity check 306 00:11:51,590 --> 00:11:49,200 is to compare the strength of the 6.6 307 00:11:54,389 --> 00:11:51,600 micron feature versus 308 00:11:56,150 --> 00:11:54,399 strengths of water vapor lines at 17 309 00:11:59,030 --> 00:11:56,160 microns from the higher resolution 310 00:12:01,110 --> 00:11:59,040 spectra where you have a better grasp on 311 00:12:03,750 --> 00:12:01,120 you can even better constrain the water 312 00:12:06,230 --> 00:12:03,760 properties and so the the two strengths 313 00:12:08,550 --> 00:12:06,240 seem to correlate so it kind of makes 314 00:12:10,790 --> 00:12:08,560 sense the stronger the water vapor one 315 00:12:13,030 --> 00:12:10,800 wavelength the stronger it is at the 316 00:12:13,910 --> 00:12:13,040 other wavelength 317 00:12:18,310 --> 00:12:13,920 for 318 00:12:19,829 --> 00:12:18,320 observed at a number of other 319 00:12:21,910 --> 00:12:19,839 wavelengths 320 00:12:25,670 --> 00:12:21,920 formaldehyde has been observed for one 321 00:12:27,269 --> 00:12:25,680 protostar at 3.6 microns in absorption 322 00:12:29,590 --> 00:12:27,279 so that would be 323 00:12:32,150 --> 00:12:29,600 a good wavelength to try to confirm the 324 00:12:35,910 --> 00:12:32,160 formaldehyde 325 00:12:38,069 --> 00:12:35,920 spectra the formic acid 326 00:12:39,269 --> 00:12:38,079 has bands at 9 and fifteen and a half 327 00:12:41,670 --> 00:12:39,279 microns 328 00:12:45,350 --> 00:12:41,680 the latter is only accessible from 329 00:12:47,030 --> 00:12:45,360 uh space-based observatories 330 00:12:49,430 --> 00:12:47,040 excuse me while the 331 00:12:51,350 --> 00:12:49,440 nine micron band is probably the best 332 00:12:55,430 --> 00:12:51,360 one as it's well suited for ground-based 333 00:13:05,509 --> 00:12:57,670 and i'll leave my conclusion slide thank 334 00:13:10,389 --> 00:13:06,870 questions 335 00:13:14,310 --> 00:13:12,069 and we have to give you a microphone if 336 00:13:15,990 --> 00:13:14,320 you can ask a question by the way 337 00:13:19,190 --> 00:13:16,000 so is there something that precludes 338 00:13:20,949 --> 00:13:19,200 both formaldehyde and formic acid in 339 00:13:22,790 --> 00:13:20,959 combination because they seem to overlap 340 00:13:24,550 --> 00:13:22,800 in that spectral region 341 00:13:35,190 --> 00:13:24,560 yeah there's nothing that precludes them 342 00:13:39,509 --> 00:13:36,790 uh do you have any thoughts as to what's 343 00:13:41,350 --> 00:13:39,519 going on as to why you see very cold 344 00:13:44,069 --> 00:13:41,360 formaldehyde but fairly hot water in the 345 00:13:48,710 --> 00:13:46,230 um so yeah the 346 00:13:50,150 --> 00:13:48,720 so this this uh was written up recently 347 00:13:51,430 --> 00:13:50,160 in a paper and that was a question the 348 00:13:54,069 --> 00:13:51,440 referee asked 349 00:13:56,550 --> 00:13:54,079 um so yeah perhaps um 350 00:13:58,470 --> 00:13:56,560 the water can survive but 351 00:14:00,310 --> 00:13:58,480 we could we can see water vapor and 352 00:14:03,750 --> 00:14:00,320 spectra of uh 353 00:14:04,870 --> 00:14:03,760 the coolest stars so 3000 kelvin stars 354 00:14:07,750 --> 00:14:04,880 cooler 355 00:14:09,430 --> 00:14:07,760 so it's a hearty molecule but the 356 00:14:12,230 --> 00:14:09,440 formaldehyde is 357 00:14:14,470 --> 00:14:12,240 uh apparently it dissociates 358 00:14:15,670 --> 00:14:14,480 at higher temperatures so perhaps it 359 00:14:19,509 --> 00:14:15,680 just 360 00:14:24,550 --> 00:14:22,790 co and molecular hydrogen 361 00:14:25,829 --> 00:14:24,560 that be it could be an explanation for 362 00:14:28,829 --> 00:14:25,839 why it's only 363 00:14:30,710 --> 00:14:28,839 cold you only see cold 364 00:14:32,150 --> 00:14:30,720 formaldehyde all right we gotta move on